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William Garner's avatar

With what is known about this situation, I am on the side of Penny. Full disclosure, I was in the military police in the Air Force. Not by choice, I enlisted for a different job. Still, I was trained about these kind of encounters and our restraint methods were similar.

The police officers conduct in this case, as you describe, is completely inexcusable. This fosters an environment where no one wants to talk to the police, for good reason. This is advice I've been given during training for my Carry License in Texas. Don't talk to the cops. The downside to this is that the cops need information to do their jobs.

Legal defense is too expensive and complicated by "legalese." Lawyers are fine, but their guild language needs to be translated so that anyone with a high school language can understand "legalese."

It's impossible to know in advance if provocative behavior is going to turn into substantial violence. Our legal system and courts should be biased in favor of citizens defending themselves. Subduing a person is not magically evaluable, at best it's an art not a science.

There's a lot more I could say about this, but I'm at work and running on caffeine for the night. Thank you for a balanced article and have a good one.

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Saby Reyes-Kulkarni's avatar

Excellent, thought-provoking piece. So many questions! And it's great to come across a piece that leaves them mostly un-answered. My impression after reading this is that some things are almost too big and complex for us to wrap our heads around -- at least not without putting some serious thought into them. I appreciate how this post respects that.

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