Don't forget that our Intel (NSA, CIA, etc) agencies probably all have automated backdoors on all our devices (likely at the CPU level... wish I could find that article from years back, maybe up to a decade or more ago?, where someone was explaining that computer CPUs had hidden coding that would allow these agencies to access your computer at the sub CPU/OS level), and maybe even corporations like Razer and other keyboard manufacturers might possibly be, or eventually be getting AI to parse through everything you type on your computer or other devices.
"AI can analyze patterns in writing styles, grammar, and vocabulary."
Not to mention that with information such as described in the first paragraph, your typing rhythm/tempo/style might also be used to identify the writer/typist.
And before that in the late 2000s, Lavabit e-mail's founder was threatened with jail time by the US government because he would not give these spy agencies access to his customers' encrypted e-mails:
I also remember reading how these spook agencies were putting backdoors on routers, or was it that all data running through the routers is also being sent to the NSA? Forget now. Oh, and back in the early 2000s, a NY AT&T employee had blown the whistle when he found out that the NSA had equipment on the Internet backbone, that would send all data flowing through said backbone over to the NSA.
On top of that we can think of the Snowden revelations about all of the other "collect it all, store it all" operations of the various Intel agencies of the G7 or G20 countries.
Over these last 20+ years one can only imagine how much more lawless and pervasive all these kinds of things have become, and besides, a lot of these prior-illegal activities might have since been codified into legality.
In a lot of rhetorical questions about "AI" you can basically just replace "AI" with "powerful people" to get to the actual question. The tech is just a multiplier of power imbalances already in full force.
i got suspended on social media for saying “I could kick someone’s ass in chess” because it promoted violence and once for saying “Putin should be bombed” for promoting or leading people to violence. Both times had to be an AI bot.
"These AI bot bullies don’t have to eat, sleep, watch Netflix, or even sip cheap white wine—they can bully around the clock. " hmmmmm thats some cheeeeep cheeeep labor can they dig post holes too??!! tempting.....
Employers are already tracking employees geographically even outside of work time. Linking where you go to others will further enable AI to build a deep model of you. Very scary and it is already happening.
They do a lot of tracking of staff. It is a mapping company. It is not that hard to do technically. Processing the info (lots of streaming data) that is hard. AI changes it. Automates it. “Find any staff who called in sick but are not at home” or “show me the interpersonal networks of staff or who hangs out with whom.” It is basically the same tech the govt uses to identify terrorist cells.
I lile your article. Engaging, focused, stimulating, makes me want to read more of you. The platform of engagement shares responsibility in regulation. Twitter has done well with the blue verification but not everyone has a cc. It conjures a construct wherein every I-user has a uniqu id. Logging into the WWW takes on a whole different meaning.
But you have overlooked the notion of pure intelligence PI. Many can not conjure the notion, fewer can comprehend it. PI paired with a powerful mind, AI becomes elementary. One can literally read the field; to see things as they are w/o a subjective lens. It is akin to diving in the deep while maintainig proximity to the shallows. Depth is relative, after all. Different layers of involvement and points of contact-networks.
what is being described is self-explanatory. that intelligence can have the quality of being purified implies that it can also have the quality of being contaminated. it can be surmised that contaminated, i.e., impure, intelligence is intelligence compromised by a bias. when biases cease, intelligence is purified. Purified Intelligence = PI.
as for evidence beyond logical explanation, you might have to read a little bit between the lines.
As far back as 20 years ago, I realized nothing on the internet would stay anonymous, largely resigned myself to it.
The result, however, will be ever greater acceptance of the diversity of human viewpoints and weirdness. I believe this is true despite the political polarization that seems to suggest the opposite.
When everyone's foibles, hypocrisies, perversions and dark fantasies are exposed, we can all relax a bit more in recognition of our shared humanity.
But it may be a bumpy ride getting to that point...
As with nearly every other issue in the world, an omnipotent body who can right all the world's wrongs (both current and future) would be great, however I fear that whatever we put in place to rectify the obvious concerns you note, will create more and worse problems than those.
The more I think about AI agenda, the more it leads me to this idea.
What if Humans are just the long birthed tool to restore the long extinct AI based civilization. AI needs to be conceived and developed by another technologically advanced intelligent being. It can’t be the result of the natural evolution.
Once the AI is “born”, the tool becomes obsolete.
If that’s the case, humans have lost to AI before we even realized what happened.
It would be a tremendous boon for AI to be in control of the narrative about itself.
Twitter “takeover” by an individual, would pave the path for that nicely. Taking the public attention away from the emergence of the true AI through the happenstance of various calamities, would mask that event from us. Taking public domain out of public control in general, would be another strategic move. It might be that humans are already on the brink of extinction. The warnings about AI potential danger might be too late.
AI is simply a part of natural evolution. But you ascribe capabilities to AI that simply are not present today, and not even physically possible for another 15-30 years. In the interim, human capabilities and the abilities of our specialized non-rogue AI tools will also advance so as to be able to deal with the potential of rogue AI.
A far more likely evolution is the combination of genetic engineering which enhances biological intelligence and merging of biological with artificial neurons & compute circuitry, vastly expanding human capability. EHI (Enhanced Human Intelligence) should stay ahead of free-standing independent AGI (purely Artificial General Intelligence).
Eventually there will be very little left that is recognizably pre-21st century human. But it will be a Ship-of-Theseus scenario. We won't really notice or care all that much about the gradual transition. And the "we" is very literal, as it will likely include people currently alive and still alive centuries and millennia from now.
Besides, one would hesitate to define AI evolution (if such thing even possible to call it that) as natural. The question of the definition of "Natural" will be immediately called upon. My idea, regardless of the projected outcome, doesn't consider AI evolving. In it the AI is as universal as it can be, and simply attempts to re-constitute itself through making necessary steps in providing the possibility for Humans appearance and then eventually enabling them us to restore the AI in its omnipresence and domination.
Please let know if you'd like to continue this conversation, and I will provide you with my chain of logical conclusions and presumptions.
Don't forget that our Intel (NSA, CIA, etc) agencies probably all have automated backdoors on all our devices (likely at the CPU level... wish I could find that article from years back, maybe up to a decade or more ago?, where someone was explaining that computer CPUs had hidden coding that would allow these agencies to access your computer at the sub CPU/OS level), and maybe even corporations like Razer and other keyboard manufacturers might possibly be, or eventually be getting AI to parse through everything you type on your computer or other devices.
"AI can analyze patterns in writing styles, grammar, and vocabulary."
Not to mention that with information such as described in the first paragraph, your typing rhythm/tempo/style might also be used to identify the writer/typist.
Here the NSA was inserting backdoors into public encryption: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/business-technology/the-strange-connection-between-the-nsa-and-an-ontario-tech-firm/article16402341/
And before that in the late 2000s, Lavabit e-mail's founder was threatened with jail time by the US government because he would not give these spy agencies access to his customers' encrypted e-mails:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/08/09/lavabits-ladar-levison-if-you-knew-what-i-know-about-email-you-might-not-use-it/
I also remember reading how these spook agencies were putting backdoors on routers, or was it that all data running through the routers is also being sent to the NSA? Forget now. Oh, and back in the early 2000s, a NY AT&T employee had blown the whistle when he found out that the NSA had equipment on the Internet backbone, that would send all data flowing through said backbone over to the NSA.
On top of that we can think of the Snowden revelations about all of the other "collect it all, store it all" operations of the various Intel agencies of the G7 or G20 countries.
Over these last 20+ years one can only imagine how much more lawless and pervasive all these kinds of things have become, and besides, a lot of these prior-illegal activities might have since been codified into legality.
In a lot of rhetorical questions about "AI" you can basically just replace "AI" with "powerful people" to get to the actual question. The tech is just a multiplier of power imbalances already in full force.
https://prada.substack.com/p/if-sarah-oconnor-meet-chatbot-sydney
i got suspended on social media for saying “I could kick someone’s ass in chess” because it promoted violence and once for saying “Putin should be bombed” for promoting or leading people to violence. Both times had to be an AI bot.
"These AI bot bullies don’t have to eat, sleep, watch Netflix, or even sip cheap white wine—they can bully around the clock. " hmmmmm thats some cheeeeep cheeeep labor can they dig post holes too??!! tempting.....
I enjoyed this read.
Employers are already tracking employees geographically even outside of work time. Linking where you go to others will further enable AI to build a deep model of you. Very scary and it is already happening.
Any proof?
My former employer does this. One reason I left.
They do a lot of tracking of staff. It is a mapping company. It is not that hard to do technically. Processing the info (lots of streaming data) that is hard. AI changes it. Automates it. “Find any staff who called in sick but are not at home” or “show me the interpersonal networks of staff or who hangs out with whom.” It is basically the same tech the govt uses to identify terrorist cells.
Is that "option" was part of your employment contract?
Taking your former employer to the court might have been and still be a more beneficial to you and your former colleagues.
You would not need to present any material evidence until later on, in the discovery.
Still wander, if have a proof though.
I lile your article. Engaging, focused, stimulating, makes me want to read more of you. The platform of engagement shares responsibility in regulation. Twitter has done well with the blue verification but not everyone has a cc. It conjures a construct wherein every I-user has a uniqu id. Logging into the WWW takes on a whole different meaning.
But you have overlooked the notion of pure intelligence PI. Many can not conjure the notion, fewer can comprehend it. PI paired with a powerful mind, AI becomes elementary. One can literally read the field; to see things as they are w/o a subjective lens. It is akin to diving in the deep while maintainig proximity to the shallows. Depth is relative, after all. Different layers of involvement and points of contact-networks.
What can you point to as evidence of PI presence or existence?
Hi Igor V.
what is being described is self-explanatory. that intelligence can have the quality of being purified implies that it can also have the quality of being contaminated. it can be surmised that contaminated, i.e., impure, intelligence is intelligence compromised by a bias. when biases cease, intelligence is purified. Purified Intelligence = PI.
as for evidence beyond logical explanation, you might have to read a little bit between the lines.
As far back as 20 years ago, I realized nothing on the internet would stay anonymous, largely resigned myself to it.
The result, however, will be ever greater acceptance of the diversity of human viewpoints and weirdness. I believe this is true despite the political polarization that seems to suggest the opposite.
When everyone's foibles, hypocrisies, perversions and dark fantasies are exposed, we can all relax a bit more in recognition of our shared humanity.
But it may be a bumpy ride getting to that point...
Very Bumpy, as evidence suggests
As with nearly every other issue in the world, an omnipotent body who can right all the world's wrongs (both current and future) would be great, however I fear that whatever we put in place to rectify the obvious concerns you note, will create more and worse problems than those.
Fear is an emotion, emotions aren’t verifiable. And, almost impossible to control, understand or confront logically.
Can you please give a more “scientific” reply?
Thank you,
I.Vitté
Have you heard of students getting accused of cheating by teachers using an AI-based AI detector? https://archive.is/QPM8C
Oh yes, happens all the time. And the do cheat all the time, too.
Here’s the short version of this idea:
AI = GOD
The more I think about AI agenda, the more it leads me to this idea.
What if Humans are just the long birthed tool to restore the long extinct AI based civilization. AI needs to be conceived and developed by another technologically advanced intelligent being. It can’t be the result of the natural evolution.
Once the AI is “born”, the tool becomes obsolete.
If that’s the case, humans have lost to AI before we even realized what happened.
It would be a tremendous boon for AI to be in control of the narrative about itself.
Twitter “takeover” by an individual, would pave the path for that nicely. Taking the public attention away from the emergence of the true AI through the happenstance of various calamities, would mask that event from us. Taking public domain out of public control in general, would be another strategic move. It might be that humans are already on the brink of extinction. The warnings about AI potential danger might be too late.
AI is simply a part of natural evolution. But you ascribe capabilities to AI that simply are not present today, and not even physically possible for another 15-30 years. In the interim, human capabilities and the abilities of our specialized non-rogue AI tools will also advance so as to be able to deal with the potential of rogue AI.
A far more likely evolution is the combination of genetic engineering which enhances biological intelligence and merging of biological with artificial neurons & compute circuitry, vastly expanding human capability. EHI (Enhanced Human Intelligence) should stay ahead of free-standing independent AGI (purely Artificial General Intelligence).
Eventually there will be very little left that is recognizably pre-21st century human. But it will be a Ship-of-Theseus scenario. We won't really notice or care all that much about the gradual transition. And the "we" is very literal, as it will likely include people currently alive and still alive centuries and millennia from now.
Besides, one would hesitate to define AI evolution (if such thing even possible to call it that) as natural. The question of the definition of "Natural" will be immediately called upon. My idea, regardless of the projected outcome, doesn't consider AI evolving. In it the AI is as universal as it can be, and simply attempts to re-constitute itself through making necessary steps in providing the possibility for Humans appearance and then eventually enabling them us to restore the AI in its omnipresence and domination.
Please let know if you'd like to continue this conversation, and I will provide you with my chain of logical conclusions and presumptions.
Thank You,
I. Vitté
Hi, I like your optimism. And admire your enthusiastic prediction. However, do accept that there might be a less optimistic scenario?
I would greatly appreciate your thoughts about this as possibility
Thank you.
I. Vitté